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At du tror det bodde kristne i Palestina flere tusen år før den angivelige Jesus og kristendommen så dagens lys, forteller jo sitt.
At du samtidig skriver jødene ut av både Palestina og historien forteller også sitt.
Er 600 tallet flere tusen år før Jesus?
Det var da den blodige arabiske ekspansjonen begynte. Den som venstresiden ikke vil snakke om.
Forsøker 'venstresiden' å holde - denne ekspansjonen fra 600-tallet - hemmelig? For hvem ifall?
Den første gangen jeg har sett palestinere, philistines omtalt - var her
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Philistine-people
kopi fra linken;
"What is the first archaeological reference to the Philistines?
Philistine | Definition, People, Homeland, & Facts | Britannica
The first records of the Philistines are inscriptions and reliefs in the mortuary temple of Ramses III at Madinat Habu, where they appear under the name prst, as one of the Sea Peoples that invaded Egypt about
1190 bce after ravaging Anatolia, Cyprus, and Syria."
Da var det ihvertfall lenge til Muhammed ble født.
Den utmerkede The Jewish Encyclopedia fra 1906 skriver helt greit om dette og her er det jøder selv som skriver.
"The Name.
The portion of Syria which was formerly the possession of the Israelites. It includes the whole of the country between the River Jordan and the Mediterranean as well as the country immediately to the east of the Jordan. The word represents the Greek form, Παλαιστίνη, of the Hebrew (Ex. xv. 14; Isa. xiv. 29, 31; Ps. lx. 10 [A. V. 8]), although in the Old Testament is applied only to the land of the Pelishtim (), or Philistines, and hence denotes merely the coast district south of Phenicia. It was the Greeks who began to denote the inland country as well by this term; such an application, by a foreign people, of the name of the coast to the interior is no rare phenomenon. As early as Herodotus, who is followed by other classical writers, as Ptolemy and Pliny, the phrase Συρίε ἡ Παλαιστίνη denotes both the littoral and the neighboring inland region (Judea and Palestine), as well as the entire interior as far as the Arabian desert. Josephus, however, usually limits the name to the land of the Philistines. In the course of time the term "Palestine" superseded the longer "Palestinian Syria," and it is used with this connotation by Josephus and Philo, while Vespasian officially designated the country as "Palestine" on the coins which he struck after the suppression of the Jewishinsurrection in 70 C.E., implying thereby the territory of the Jews. The name is used in this sense by Christian authors beginning with Jerome, as well as by the Jewish writers (), while the Arabic "Filasṭin" is more restricted in meaning, denoting only Judea and Samaria."
Her kan du merke deg at disse jødene sier at Palestina er en del av Syria. Man ser at også jødene Josephus og Philo kalte landet Palestina for 2000 år siden.
Også her.
"The region now called Palestine is the southern-most part of Syria."
Så er det noe veldig interessant.
"Although there was no inclusive name in antiquity for the country of the Israelites and the coast, the designation "Canaan" () is applied in the Old Testament to Palestine west of the Jordan."
" Canaan is bounded on the west by the sea, on the east by the Jordan, the Lake of Tiberias, and a line drawn northward from that point"
Ikke ett eneste ord om at dette området noengang er blitt kalt Israel. I Det gamle testamente kalles det Kanaan, i alle andre kilder er det gjennom 2500 år, to tusen femhundre år, blitt kalt Palestina.
Men at det noengang i historien før 14. mai 1948 er blitt kalt Israel? Nei!
Var landet folketomt dengang i 1906?
"To-day the number of inhabitants does not exceed 650,000."
https://jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/11866-palestine